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10zlaine visited this weekend. We ate lots of yummy vegan food, dropped by a hideously lame sci-fi convention in Long Island, and attended an incredibly cool horror convention in Manhattan (where we observed lovely nightmare art and heard Harlan Ellison gossip about Samuel L. Jackson).

Also we watched the first season of Queer as Folk. And really I have only two words:

Brian Kinney

I have other thoughts (the writing is so cliched that not only did I know every "plot twist" in advance, I could actually recite lines of dialogue before they occurred; and what's with the reliance on essentialist biological gender stereotypes--men just want to fuck as many people as possible and women just want to coo nauseatingly over babies?)

But these thoughts are pretty much overruled by Brian Kinney.

(I'm not sure if it's more I want to be Brian Kinney or that I want to fuck Brian Kinney.)

The whole thing with him not embarrassed to drive the spraypainted car...? That's who I want to be.

I think maybe I should re-read Chase's story. But first I have to go buy and watch more seasons.... (don't spoil me!)

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Oh it gets better darlin.

;)

Enjoy Brian.

He would you.

Sun

Hee. Thanks. :)

I *love* Harlan Ellison - you are so lucky :)

I, um, actually ... don't know who he is.

But uh, his talk was really entertaining, and his personality was certainly ... forceful.

"Forceful" - definitely :)

Harlan Ellison is an *amazing* science fiction writer. Still profane, prolific and *very* entertaining after all these years. Good to know!

Oi! No! Stuart, not Brian! Original QAF is far superior, imho.

I have the original on DVD but have yet to see it. Next time I visit her, we'll watch it and check it out!

Ah, we should check that out.

BTW, I'm already nine episodes into season two. >:)

I'll have to see it sometime.

But for now... Brian Kinney will certainly do. >:)

While QAF(US) is indeed a boring soap, Brian Kinney is a man-god. I adore his character. He's so strong! *melts*

He's amazing. He's hitting almost every fictional kink that I have. I just wish the show was better!

You have just perfectly described my own feelings about QAF. :-)

Haha, thanks.

I'm halfway into season two, now, and it's so disappointing that the show itself isn't better. But I know I'll keep watching, because Brian is amazing.

I'd recommend re-reading TMWWT after you've finished Season Three. You'll appreciate the first six chapters so much more that way, as the fic picks up from 3.14.

All hail the glory that is Brian Kinney. Man-god, indeed.

OH MY GOD LOOK AT THAT PRETTY ICON.

*drools*

Um, what were you saying...? Oh yeah....

I think I'm a Brian/Michael shipper. Well, actually I'm not really a shipper at all because I don't believe in love and relationships and that shit, but if I did, I'd be a Brian/Michael shipper. Maybe I'm a Brian/Michael friendship-with-subtext -er?

I will wait until 3.14, then. I'm already at 2.09, and I ordered season three online. (And now I have no money for food, but hey, Brian Kinney!) Damn addictive soap opera....

And yeah, Brian is amazing. I just wish the show itself was better.

DVD's are more important than food. You must feed your soul, after all. ;)

I think the show really begins to lose what quality it had after mid-S3, so I'd suggest renting the Season 4 DVD's before you buy them. Seriously--even the hotness of Brian can't save a lot of those S4 plotlines.

Glad to hear you're getting the B/M thing. My take on their relationship is that it's an intense romantic friendship, so I'm a little unique in how I see them as well. Sex is so the least important issue for those two.

So don't just say one con was lame and the other was cool, tell us why for each!

Some GREAT guests at the first one, why was it lame?

Haha, you convention addict!

Umm... let's see. Well, we went to the LI con on Friday--it was almost two hours on the LIRR. Sitting in a cramped smelly train car for that long didn't really put me in the greatest state of mind to begin with.

Then we had to walk forever around this huge campus trying to find the convention buildings. The situation wasn't set up for travelers. It took place in the school, everyone knew each other, and most of the crowd was high school students and their teachers from school. There was just lots of little kids and suburban teens running around, and Tammy and I so didn't fit in.

Then we looked at the schedule, and there was just really nothing we wanted to see. The only cool thing was a concert by Voltaire (goth comedian) but we couldn't stay because it was at midnight and we had to catch our train home. The rest was like... model building and stuff. I think it's cool if you're local and you're into that kind of technical stuff, but there didn't seem much in the way of intellectual or academic type discussions, which is more what I'm into.

And then it turned out that the con hotel was 11 miles away, which is just pretty ridiculous. And it was just clear that this was really a local thing for local people, and it's probably great for them, but that we just didn't fit in, and there wasn't much programming to suit our interests.

The horror con was great because of the high level of quality. The first thing we did was check out the art show--it was a small room, but the work on display was amazing. Just absolutely gorgeous paintings, sculptures, drawings, etc. Lots of nightmarish/fantasy type stuff, and some that incorporated humor. Really beautiful... if I was rich, I'd decorate my apartment with some of those.

The dealer room was small, but again, had some really neat stuff... like rare first editions of Stephen King's Dark Tower series (squee!!) and a beautiful old Princess Bride. All too expensive for me, alas. And there were lots of authors hawking their work and signing/chatting, and lots of small publishers with really interesting cutting-edge type stuff.

Then we went to several panels. The one on gay/lesbian issues in horror was very interesting, and according to them it was the first such panel they'd ever had, which made it sort of historical. There were some insightful comments, and the panelists (on every panel) were all very prepared and knowledgeable about their areas (like they all worked in those areas... the gay/lesbian panel had published authors of gay/lesbian fiction and a former B&N book buyer, the small publishers panel had actual well-known people who'd started small presses, etc.)

The one thing that irritated me was the vibe of elitism... slash was mentioned a couple of times, always in a condescending way. That made me want to slap a few people. But generally the panels were done well.

And the Harlon Ellison panel was a hoot! It got moved to a bigger room because so many people wanted to see it, and the topic was about the process of taking horror writing to Hollywood (TV and movies). I suspect that most of the people on that panel were big names in horror writing, but unfortunately I'm pretty ignorant in that area. I have studied a lot of film and TV, though! So I found the panel really interesting, and Harlon Ellison was great because he was so honest. Like when he was bitching about a screenwriter who screwed up one of his stories, he named the guy's name and went into detail about why he sucked. That level of honesty is pretty rare.

They struck a good balance, talking about what's wrong with Hollywood and the risks of going there, but also about how great it is to produce something worthwhile. They had the producer of some new Masters of Horror type show on Showtime(?), I think, which sounded really interesting. And it was just... like really knowledgeable and interesting people, telling relevant stories and giving relevant advice. I liked the level of seriousness--like the panelists and the audience were all serious about the topic and really wanted to learn.

So um, yeah, I'm sorry I rambled on so much! But you asked, and of course, this is all just my humble opinions.... :)

Haha, you convention addict!

Who, me? [blinking innocently]

So um, yeah, I'm sorry I rambled on so much! But you asked, and of course, this is all just my humble opinions.... :)

I asked because I wanted your opinions, dopey girl.

Thanks for the detailed response, that was exactly what I was hoping you'd do!

Will not spoil, but will welcome you to the world of Brian with open arms. I'm with you there - dunno if I want to shag the guy or be the guy.

On Harlan E. - DETAILS!!! Please? Please? I've heard such contradictory reports on the man I'm always curious.

Mmmmm... Brian......

Anyway...

I don't really know much about Harlan Ellison, just that he's a well-known horror writer. I haven't read his work. (*sorry*)

He seemed kind of prickly and judgmental, set in his ways, rude. But very smart, perceptive, funny, and honest. I liked him.

He interrupted the small publishers panel five minutes early and kicked us out so he could start his panel (to be fair, a shitload of people were clamoring to get in.) Then when the room turned out to be too small, he kicked some author out of the main room and moved his panel there.

On the panel (which was about taking horror writing to Hollywood) he bitched about various producers and writers who suck, named their names and went into detail about why they suck. But his advice and discussion was all really interesting and funny, and it was amazing to see someone being honest about Hollywood. I guess he's well-known enough that he has the power to do that without being ostracized.

His talk about Samuel L. Jackson was funny--basically SLJ wanted to play a part that he'd written and was totally into it. And HL said that SLJ is one of the great American actors, but he's wrong for the part. And he told this to SLJ's face, in front of SLJ's "posse," and stood up to him. It sounded pretty intense!

So yeah, that was my impression, based on seeing an hour of the guy on a panel...

Thank you for expanding on the talk that Harlan gave :) I just posted another response, but I had to butt in again.

Harlan *is* incredibly honest (some would say rude). He's been around since the 1950s - and he doesn't believe in coddling anyone! He spent a couple of years with a New York street gang and then wrote about it - he was about 22 or so. Sort of like Hunter S. Thompson, but less insane.

He's been ostracized plenty of times :) but he is such an amazing talent that you can't keep him out or down for long.

Thank you so much for expanding on his talk :)

Thanks for going fun/interesting places with me.
Thanks for eating fantastic food with me.
Thanks for sprawling on the futon for hours with me.
Thanks for putting up with me & sharing yer space.
etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...

Oh, hush, you know I had fun. Thanks for tolerating my tiny apartment and my evil demon cats.

Oh yeah, and thanks for lending Queer as Folk. >:)

I had a great time... we'll certainly have to do it again.

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