rusty_halo | i'm happy that my FL is happy, but all i can say is EEEEEWWWWWWW

Hahaha, you know how I feel by this point but dude that actually managed to be hot. Go figure.

It *was* hot... I mean, Barrowman was, and god, if it had been ANYONE other than Marsters I would totally be in slash-fantasy-come-true heaven. But WHY did it have to be the walking midlife crisis himself?? After you see him staggering around drunk onstage making out with barely legal stalker groupies, it just DOESN'T WORK anymore.

*is sad to miss out on the squee*

(Moral of the story: never go to a sci-fi convention?)

After you see him staggering around drunk onstage making out with barely legal stalker groupies, it just DOESN'T WORK anymore.

*loses it*

That's not as funny as the fangirls who think that's dead sexy. Well, if he's got any left. Don't encourage me. We'll make f_w.

Dude, you should've heard the fangirls defending him after that. "Poor James! It's not his fault that the con runner put Jack Daniels in the dressing room. He had no CHOICE but to drink it all immediately before going on stage!"

Don't forget how he doesn't smoke, either! HE IS ON THE PATCH!

You and Bub want to get me in trouble, don't you? ;)

(Moral of the story: never go to a sci-fi convention?)

No man, that's not it. It's *truth* that got you; *reality*, in a broader sense because I never saw any of that, only heard about it...but somewhere, at some time, the rose-colored pearle visions fell off and they wouldn't fit again. I can't even bring myself to watch any clips, despite how hot barrowman is.

::is proud of your subversive post::

LOL, thanks.

I think the moment it finally hit me was in London, watching him in the open-chested black pimp shirt, wailing his cheeseball teenage boy crap lyrics, obviously believing himself to be REALLY HOT SHIT, and me realizing that I COULD BE EXPLORING LONDON and instead I am watching the Second Coming of Hasselhoff.

I think you realized it before I did. Maybe you were around him more, since you worked more cons. I think his ickiness just rubs off the more you're around him.

I feel like I should make a vid of the scene for you with someone else's head pasted over Marsters. Because Barrowman seriously is hot in it.

I keep trying to figure out the exact moment, for me. I think the turning point was my first D*C next to him all day and then that concert, and the pinnacle was definitely London. Just thank god we buggered off and saw cool stuff.

I think Leslie and you have me convinced to watch it, if for the Barrowman hotness. But only once, since I have this feeling my proclivity for rubbernecking the macabre will leave me with ickeddnez in my branes.

but somewhere, at some time, the rose-colored pearle visions fell off and they wouldn't fit again

That's exactly it, right there in a nutshell. I'm sure if I hadn't been witness to some of his more, how shall I put this, not exactly sane moments, then perhaps I wouldn't hate the fact that he's in my shiny new fandom. But alas, it is what it is.

But dude, Barrowman is still hot. Watch the clips.

I think you might have convinced me. Now, I have to figure out which one, because I'm not watching it over and over, lol

LOL. Just this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v0szrB5nB8

the silhouette gave me seizures (after my laughter). i did try to make my eyes go left, though.

on the upside? the fighting was sexy and much of it was sort of shadowy, so definitely not as squicky.

Oh yeah. I think the actual moral is "never meet your idols; they'll only disappoint you." Which I already knew, so I'm kicking myself for falling into the trap again with Marsters. >:(

Heh. What I find amusing about this whole thing is that Marsters is giving Barrowman an SMG-type kiss: closed mouth, tight-lipped, mashy.

But you're right - although I had a few BtVS/Spike flashbacks while watching the Torchwood S2 promo, JM's general real-life unsavoriness sort of obviates any actual delight in the overt slash. Too bad.

Heh. What I find amusing about this whole thing is that Marsters is giving Barrowman an SMG-type kiss: closed mouth, tight-lipped, mashy.

LOL! You are so right. It is totally that panicked straight male "I am ACTING like I'm kissing a guy but I'm not really turned on PLEASE DON'T THINK I'M GAY" kiss. Which does have a lot in common with SMG's whole "I am a bigger star than you--don't get your spit in my mouth!" kisses.

Stop looking at the face - look at the jacket! It's the jacket that's important! /uniform fetish

LOL. I totally want to make a vid of it with someone else's head pasted over Marsters.

Gee. You really wouldn't like my new desktop wallpaper. :P

I like your Stephen Colbert icon, though!

I watched the clip, and while I find Barrowman hotter than hot, I can't help but cringe. And did it remind you at all of how Buffy and Spike got off fighting first and then screwing? That's exactly what I was thinking while watching it.

Oh, it totally reminded me of Buffy and Spike. But back in the day, I used to like that. They both got off on violence, but they were equals, and superpowered beings who could take it. I didn't start hating it until ME twisted it into this whole "Spike is abusing Buffy" nonsense.

Amen to all of the above. I actually am in the camp of bemoaning JM's arrival on Torchwood, as well. I thankfully never got to see much of his antics in person, but I heard about it and saw him once at DragonCon in Atlanta. It only took 1 time of hearing him to think 'OMG, you have GOT to be kidding me'. Thankfully it was a con, and I had better things to do. :) I will definately have to check out that clip, though. If his character is good, I can get into that. I like characters - usually I don't give a whit about the actor for the exact reason someone mentioned above - if you meet the person, disappointment tends to be the rule. "Oh, damn. Human. :)"

This is so funny...I haven't been a fan of JM's for a coupla years now but I find this clip incredibly hot, and really quite amusing in the way they beat the snot out of each other so gleefully.

I can't beat up on JM, though...I enjoyed being a fan of his while it lasted, had some great times because of it - including meeting YOU! :oD - and I still think he's a pretty good actor.

But damn, that Barrowman is gorgeous...gotta see if I can find Torchwood to rent around here, 'cause I sure as hell can't afford to buy it!

Yeah, in the end I wouldn't trade the whole Spike fandom experience, since I made awesome friends out of it. :)

And yes, you should totally watch Torchwood. And Barrowman in Doctor Who; I actually think he's a lot more appealing there.

You've gone off him THAT much?
Oh Laura Laura Laura ….

...I still respect the good fic? And miss season five Spike?

(Seriously, Marsters is just so... Hasselhoff-esque is the only word that quite describes it.)

I agree 110%. All it took was me seeing him at one con to totally dislike him. And it wasn't even one where I saw him completely drunk and making out with underage fen.

My flist is all a squee too. And I'm all a yuck.

Heh. We should form a club. "The former Spike fans who had the misfortune to meet James Marsters."

It is kind of depressing to see my whole FL squeeing over him. I just want to be like... you brilliant women are SO MUCH COOLER than that old loser! Stop it! Find someone who *deserves* your fannish adoration!

But, eh, whatever. Most actors probably suck beneath the veneer.

i'm happy that my FL is happy, but all i can say is EEEEEWWWWWWW

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