Dude. I just re-watched HN/FoB and he thanks Martha twice! Once in the instructional video and once at the end with a big hug. Not to mention the whole "trusting her with his life" thing implies that he had a lot of respect for her intelligence and resourcefulness... he just wasn't in love with her. That's it! The only "awful" thing he ever did was not fall in love!
I'm totally with you about the nature of romantic love. It's not something you can force or than anyone can *owe* to another person. Part of Martha's story was her growing to accept that romance with the Doctor just wasn't going to happen, and that she needed to move on. It's too bad her fans can't do the same.
Yeah, Fandom Wank seems to be dominated by a few really vocal and bitter Martha fans. I'm sure both sides do wanky things, but it's just annoying how they only mock the Rose side, and then do wanky things themselves in the FW comments. It's like you'd need Fandom Wank-Wank to mock them. It's too bad because 99% of the time I love FW.
When I first watched the series, I really didn't feel that strongly about Rose and Martha. I though Piper is a more compelling actress and that Rose was a more developed character, but I honestly didn't care much either way. Then I came into fandom and for the first time I understand the whole "the fans made me hate the character!" thing. Every time I see Martha fans making these nasty wanky arguments, I resent the character a little bit more.
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Date: 2008-01-27 08:59 pm (UTC)I'm totally with you about the nature of romantic love. It's not something you can force or than anyone can *owe* to another person. Part of Martha's story was her growing to accept that romance with the Doctor just wasn't going to happen, and that she needed to move on. It's too bad her fans can't do the same.
Yeah, Fandom Wank seems to be dominated by a few really vocal and bitter Martha fans. I'm sure both sides do wanky things, but it's just annoying how they only mock the Rose side, and then do wanky things themselves in the FW comments. It's like you'd need Fandom Wank-Wank to mock them. It's too bad because 99% of the time I love FW.
When I first watched the series, I really didn't feel that strongly about Rose and Martha. I though Piper is a more compelling actress and that Rose was a more developed character, but I honestly didn't care much either way. Then I came into fandom and for the first time I understand the whole "the fans made me hate the character!" thing. Every time I see Martha fans making these nasty wanky arguments, I resent the character a little bit more.