But basically, my anti-kink (something I can't enjoy no matter how well it's written) is a character having little sense of self that they want to let someone else have complete control over them. Like the idea of Spike (or Wesley) as whoever's "pet" just creeps me out completely, regardless of whether the "pet owner" is affectionate or cruel.
Aha! I love your thoughts on this and I quite agree. After reading the stories you talked about I was left with a unsettled feeling. I really cannot imagine (or don't want to) Spike getting to a place where he's broken, he's lost the wily asshole within. It doesn't appeal to me because the story takes away everything about Spike that I love. I might as well read about Joe the Slave then.
Similarly, I won't read stories that ship Spike/someone-other-than-Buffy but include the same plot of using him for sex. Bleh.
In my mind, Spike is love's bitch as he has demonstrated numerous times. But. There will always be a part of him, the independent bastard streak, that his partner can't touch. So he is able to knock Dru out in Becoming 2 and forcefully tell Buffy exactly who is to blame in Blood Ties.
Or, something similar: Intervention totally hits a kink in a similar way. It's not romantic, but I just love how, even when he's being horribly tortured, Spike's making fun of Glory's hair and her big ass and completely refusing to give in at all. Whereas if he gave up and broke, it would just be sad and depressing.
That is it exactly. Whenever I think of the highlight of all that is Spike, the scenes from that episode come to mind.
(I'm sorry if most of this is incoherent. My brain isn't working and I should have just pointed and said "pretty thoughts" but I can't shut myself up.)
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Date: 2003-10-15 01:18 am (UTC)Aha! I love your thoughts on this and I quite agree. After reading the stories you talked about I was left with a unsettled feeling. I really cannot imagine (or don't want to) Spike getting to a place where he's broken, he's lost the wily asshole within. It doesn't appeal to me because the story takes away everything about Spike that I love. I might as well read about Joe the Slave then.
Similarly, I won't read stories that ship Spike/someone-other-than-Buffy but include the same plot of using him for sex. Bleh.
In my mind, Spike is love's bitch as he has demonstrated numerous times. But. There will always be a part of him, the independent bastard streak, that his partner can't touch. So he is able to knock Dru out in Becoming 2 and forcefully tell Buffy exactly who is to blame in Blood Ties.
Or, something similar: Intervention totally hits a kink in a similar way. It's not romantic, but I just love how, even when he's being horribly tortured, Spike's making fun of Glory's hair and her big ass and completely refusing to give in at all. Whereas if he gave up and broke, it would just be sad and depressing.
That is it exactly. Whenever I think of the highlight of all that is Spike, the scenes from that episode come to mind.
(I'm sorry if most of this is incoherent. My brain isn't working and I should have just pointed and said "pretty thoughts" but I can't shut myself up.)