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(Has nothing to do with the quality of their writing or anything like that, so no offense intended.) But basically, my anti-kink (something I can't enjoy no matter how well it's written) is a character having little sense of self that they want to let someone else have complete control over them. Like the idea of Spike (or Wesley) as whoever's "pet" just creeps me out completely, regardless of whether the "pet owner" is affectionate or cruel.
Yes! Absolutely-- one of the few things I find squicky.
What's interesting to me is that there's such a fine line between kink and anti-kink for me. Because I totally think Spike is love's bitch, he needs his lover to to be the powerful one in the relationship (which was very true of Dru and Buffy; without that, he'll have no respect for them, as with Harmony). But Spike's also got a very strong sense of self (a lot of insecurity, but still a strong sense of self). When he wants something, he's not going to roll over and give it up. He'll always struggle, and he'll never let himself be totally dominated. He'll be in the submissive role because he likes it and needs it, but it's never total. (Like, even when he's totally in love with Dru and does her bidding most of the time, when he feels that she's lingering too much over Angel, he'll go behind her back and make a deal with the Slayer.)
So very true. Just another fascinating facet of the Spike mosaic, this contradictory nature. Because *within* this dynamic, he will, occasionally, strive to dominate-- see Buffy in Dead Things (the balcony scene) or Dru in Lover's Walk ("I'll torture her until she comes back to me.")-- and/or be the protector-- see Dru in general, especially after the events in Prague, Buffy even back in Fool for Love, the beginning of Season Six, and the end of Season Seven, and, of course, Dawn in Season Five/Six.
Or, something similar: Intervention totally hits a kink in a similar way. It's not romantic, but I just love how, even when he's being horribly tortured, Spike's making fun of Glory's hair and her big ass and completely refusing to give in at all. Whereas if he gave up and broke, it would just be sad and depressing.
No kidding. For all my kinks, I actually abhor extreme violence and pain-- it's part and parcel of a vampire show, I know, and I don't mind all kinds of mental anguish and deep angst...but give me physical torture, and I just feel ill. Still, I love this episode: as you point out, Spike's behaviour in Intervention can counter this and give the storyline a different spin-- make it about courage and a stubborn sense of self instead of resignation and submission...
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Date: 2003-10-14 03:54 pm (UTC)(Has nothing to do with the quality of their writing or anything like that, so no offense intended.) But basically, my anti-kink (something I can't enjoy no matter how well it's written) is a character having little sense of self that they want to let someone else have complete control over them. Like the idea of Spike (or Wesley) as whoever's "pet" just creeps me out completely, regardless of whether the "pet owner" is affectionate or cruel.
Yes! Absolutely-- one of the few things I find squicky.
What's interesting to me is that there's such a fine line between kink and anti-kink for me. Because I totally think Spike is love's bitch, he needs his lover to to be the powerful one in the relationship (which was very true of Dru and Buffy; without that, he'll have no respect for them, as with Harmony). But Spike's also got a very strong sense of self (a lot of insecurity, but still a strong sense of self). When he wants something, he's not going to roll over and give it up. He'll always struggle, and he'll never let himself be totally dominated. He'll be in the submissive role because he likes it and needs it, but it's never total. (Like, even when he's totally in love with Dru and does her bidding most of the time, when he feels that she's lingering too much over Angel, he'll go behind her back and make a deal with the Slayer.)
So very true. Just another fascinating facet of the Spike mosaic, this contradictory nature. Because *within* this dynamic, he will, occasionally, strive to dominate-- see Buffy in Dead Things (the balcony scene) or Dru in Lover's Walk ("I'll torture her until she comes back to me.")-- and/or be the protector-- see Dru in general, especially after the events in Prague, Buffy even back in Fool for Love, the beginning of Season Six, and the end of Season Seven, and, of course, Dawn in Season Five/Six.
Or, something similar: Intervention totally hits a kink in a similar way. It's not romantic, but I just love how, even when he's being horribly tortured, Spike's making fun of Glory's hair and her big ass and completely refusing to give in at all. Whereas if he gave up and broke, it would just be sad and depressing.
No kidding. For all my kinks, I actually abhor extreme violence and pain-- it's part and parcel of a vampire show, I know, and I don't mind all kinds of mental anguish and deep angst...but give me physical torture, and I just feel ill. Still, I love this episode: as you point out, Spike's behaviour in Intervention can counter this and give the storyline a different spin-- make it about courage and a stubborn sense of self instead of resignation and submission...