Oh, except for that fascinating part of TW in which our heroes got to sit around and watch Martha's undercover adventures.
Yes, the main characters were literally sidelined so that the Mary Sue could be the center of attention. Torchwood gives me the constant feeling that someone dug up old Buffy badfic, changed the names, and decided to film it as a TV show.
Martha just kind of wandered in front of the guards and got caught. What was up with her just running out of hiding like that?
I like your theory about it being an example of Martha's arrogance (OMG a flaw?!) but really I think it's just another example of sloppy Torchwood writing. Like when Suzie was trying to escape onto a slow-moving ferry as if the team couldn't possibly follow her once she got on it.
Rose's dad did run AU Torchwood
I totally had to look that up. My own fault for being drunk both times I watched that episode, I guess. But, yeah, the point still stands that it makes the crazy Martha fans look even more ridiculous.
Tosh finally nailing him down for a date was a big giveaway that Something Bad was about to happen
Yeah, and it's such a Joss Whedon cliche. Torchwood continues to be a mix of BtVS and AtS as if the writers had taken a lot of crack and gotten lobotomies.
She's gotta knee Gene in the groin when he gropes her breast, for heaven's sake.
Now THAT I would've liked. Alex feels to me like a female character written by men who Just Don't Get It.
I do think they're deliberately presenting a take-off of over-the-top 80s cop/action shows.
Yeah, the end literally did result in me having the A-Team theme stuck in my head. They were just doing a pastiche, which was funny (like how the machine guns never seem to fatally kill anyone) but then do they actually want us to care that Alex is trying to get back to her daughter? Because either you're doing a goofy 80s pastiche for us to laugh at, or else you want us to be seriously emotionally invested in the characters, but the two really don't fit together.
I don't just miss Sam, I miss Sam's complexity and the strength of his character.
I know. That's what I mean when I say I miss Sam. He was a three-dimensional character with flaws and conflicts and a real journey. And you truly felt for him, trapped in this insane world. Alex herself doesn't take it seriously, so how is the audience supposed to take it seriously on her behalf?
And Alex doing it all for her kid -- what a cliched motivation for a female character.
Yes. More proof that she's a female character written by men who really don't understand women. If you're going to write a female lead, you could at least try to come up with something honest and real, instead of a bunch of cliches strung together. (*still can't believe that they had her appear in 1981 dressed as a prostitute*)
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Date: 2008-02-15 04:47 pm (UTC)Yes, the main characters were literally sidelined so that the Mary Sue could be the center of attention. Torchwood gives me the constant feeling that someone dug up old Buffy badfic, changed the names, and decided to film it as a TV show.
Martha just kind of wandered in front of the guards and got caught. What was up with her just running out of hiding like that?
I like your theory about it being an example of Martha's arrogance (OMG a flaw?!) but really I think it's just another example of sloppy Torchwood writing. Like when Suzie was trying to escape onto a slow-moving ferry as if the team couldn't possibly follow her once she got on it.
Rose's dad did run AU Torchwood
I totally had to look that up. My own fault for being drunk both times I watched that episode, I guess. But, yeah, the point still stands that it makes the crazy Martha fans look even more ridiculous.
Tosh finally nailing him down for a date was a big giveaway that Something Bad was about to happen
Yeah, and it's such a Joss Whedon cliche. Torchwood continues to be a mix of BtVS and AtS as if the writers had taken a lot of crack and gotten lobotomies.
She's gotta knee Gene in the groin when he gropes her breast, for heaven's sake.
Now THAT I would've liked. Alex feels to me like a female character written by men who Just Don't Get It.
I do think they're deliberately presenting a take-off of over-the-top 80s cop/action shows.
Yeah, the end literally did result in me having the A-Team theme stuck in my head. They were just doing a pastiche, which was funny (like how the machine guns never seem to fatally kill anyone) but then do they actually want us to care that Alex is trying to get back to her daughter? Because either you're doing a goofy 80s pastiche for us to laugh at, or else you want us to be seriously emotionally invested in the characters, but the two really don't fit together.
I don't just miss Sam, I miss Sam's complexity and the strength of his character.
I know. That's what I mean when I say I miss Sam. He was a three-dimensional character with flaws and conflicts and a real journey. And you truly felt for him, trapped in this insane world. Alex herself doesn't take it seriously, so how is the audience supposed to take it seriously on her behalf?
And Alex doing it all for her kid -- what a cliched motivation for a female character.
Yes. More proof that she's a female character written by men who really don't understand women. If you're going to write a female lead, you could at least try to come up with something honest and real, instead of a bunch of cliches strung together. (*still can't believe that they had her appear in 1981 dressed as a prostitute*)