rusty_halo

OMG HOW DO YOU STAND IT? I GUESS THE LONGER LIVED THE FANDOM THE WANKIER IT CAN BECOME.

you are a serial killing rape apologist, btw.

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I should just come out with it, shouldn't I? Make a big public announcement. "LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I KNOW I'VE BEEN CALLING MYSELF A FEMINIST AND COMPLAINING ABOUT SEXISM FOR YEARS, BUT ACTUALLY, I THINK RAPE IS AWESOME. YAY RAPE!"

I mean seriously. Digging up meta from five years ago in a different fandom is PATHETIC. Turning a nuanced argument about how BtVS disempowers women into "OMG SHE LIKES RAPE" is also PATHETIC. It doesn't even deserve a response aside from LOLs at how low these people sink to avoid having to come up with coherent arguments.

PS: Common Rotation this weekend, yay! You're going to the one in MA, right?

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ONLY IF YOU MAKE SURE TO LINK TO THAT PUBLIC POST VIA WHO_DAILY SO WHEN PEOPLE RUSH OVER YOUR POSSE CAN GET SICCED ON THEM.

OMG Yes! Dammit, I wish you could make the trip easily. I just made the hotel reservation for the Marriott that was right near the subway. I was worried Erin would back out, but she's still going, so at least I won't be all loser alone in the front row--which is where I suspect the table will be due to my early reservation.

How as MacBeth?

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IT'S LIKE I'M DRACULA AND YOU GUYS ARE MY WOLVES.

Oh, I know, I wish I could go! Why didn't they do it on a Saturday?!

Macbeth was pretty good. I loved the witches but wasn't as impressed with Patrick Stewart as I expected to be. I posted a long comment about it here.

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Common Rotation this weekend, yay!

How was the show? Have they played there, before? I can't remember if you told me about that venue or not.

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Awesometastic! I'd never been there before, but the venue was really nice. Good sound and lots of seats with good views. It was pretty packed too. And the band was in a really good mood with lots of smiles and banter. Even Jane thought it was a better show than last time she'd seen them. (And Adam ran over and chatted with us as soon as we walked in the door! He was in a really social mood.)

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swmbo.livejournal.com

Hee.

I have to say, I read through those and I am very scared.

Don't hurt me.

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WATCH OUT OR I'LL SIC MY POSSE ON YOU!

(Hee, seriously! I'm pretty sure I have never flamed anyone in my life. And if I had a posse there'd be a lot more Doctor/Master pr0n here right now.)

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swmbo.livejournal.com

Well, maybe you should WORK on that, ok?!

(Sheesh! I know. I mean, hello, if I recall, you and I have VERY different character loves quite often! We survive!)

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If only I could brainwash you all into following my every command.... (Eek, must say no more! *covers up evil plotting*)

Yeah, erm, my FL is full of people with different opinions. If everyone agreed, there wouldn't be much to talk about. Doesn't mean we can't still be friends. :)

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This isn't the craziest fandom I've been in. Reading those posts and STILL feeling that way makes me question things.

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Man, which fandom was worse? The only thing I can think of is Harry Potter (BNF plagiarists, astral wives, Harmoanians), but thankfully I was barely even on the periphery of that.

I don't think BtVS was this nutty. But perhaps it's turning all rose-colored in retrospect.

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Dude, I was in the Harmoanian camp! I've mostly repressed, but I was thinking Naruto fandom. Which is crazier than the Doctor Who fandom. Though not as mean or bitter.

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IANTO/GWEN/JACK ICON OMG.

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THEY ARE MY OT3. I AM NOT ASHAMED. I AM STARTING TO THINK I'LL HAVE TO WRITE AN EPIC OT3 FIC BECAUSE NO ONE IS WRITING IT FOR ME. :(

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YES I DEMAND YOU WRITE I/G/J GOODNESS BECAUSE I NEED TO READ IT, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO.

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I ACTUALLY HAVE ONE STARTED. I JUST HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, FINISH IT.

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Heeeeee. Yeah, that's the rub with writing. Eventually, you have to finish it. Sigh.

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And it's not like this relationship is one that writes itself for me either.

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Hee. Did you just ship Harry/Hermione or were you like RON IS A DOMESTIC ABUSER AND GINNY IS A WHORE AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T SHIP H/HR IS THE ENEMY?

'Cause I'm totally cool with Harry/Hermione (I kind of like them better myself) but the crazy Harmoanians are probably the wackiest fan group I ever saw.

What's crazy in Naruto fandom? I don't know anything about it but am curious.

"Mean and bitter" is probably the best way to describe DW fandom. It's not even that they're batshit insane and talking to astral Doctors, it's just that they are constantly looking for reasons to bash and hate on everything.

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I adore Ron very much and think that Ginny was a sexist character (but I think all of Rowlings' women needed work, Ginny just stuck out the most.) IT WAS JUST CRAZY I'M GLAD I LEFT.

Oh god so there is this pairing Naruto/Sasuke in the fandom and there are ship wars on who would top. I am NOT joking. That's just SOME of the insanity.

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are the harmoanians crazier than the kittens?

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I keep forgetting that the kittens existed! You're right, they were probably the height of batshit in our fandom. Remember when they changed their forum header to photos of Joss, Marti, and Steve DeKnight with red X's through their faces? (Well, them and the really rabid ducks who were all like "if you like Spike you should be put in jail for promoting rape!")

Most of what I know about Harmoanians I learned from fandom_wank, but this sums it up quite hilariously.

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I am quite enjoying how that one crazy person is getting her ass handed to her in that thread.

*popcorns*

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Hee, me too! I totally want to hug whoever was pwning her. >:)

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Okay, I had to stop reading the rest of the meme because it's the same thing over and over and over and over again. Let me guess...the Rosefen and the Marthafen don't get along?

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I know, shocking!

I couldn't read too much because the capital letters make my eyes bleed. (Well, that and the stupid. I like my anon memes funny, not bitter and hateful.)

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I know! Why was that such an epic lack of funny? weird.

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Because Doctor Who is the wankiest fandom ever to wank?

I dunno, man. *goes off to watch more Doctor/Master vids*

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harmonyfb.livejournal.com

I don't think I can write D/M porn. Maybe I could write Master/Mrs. Saxon porn instead?

Having peeked at the thread referenced above, all I can say is:

How can we be friends? HOW? You HATE MARTHA! ::sob::

::snerk::

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Maybe I could write Master/Mrs. Saxon porn instead?

Maybe you could. ;)

I like that pairing very much in its fucked up way. And that chick who played Lucy Saxon was really hot.

How can we be friends? HOW? You HATE MARTHA! ::sob::

Oh no! It's an eternal rift that can never be overcome! *cries*

I... actually don't hate her. I just think she's boring and I'm sick of seeing Rose bashed to make her look better. I don't actually care that much. *shrugs*

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fauxkaren.livejournal.com

... I... I... I'm not even entirely sure what was going on in that thread. There seemed to be lots of capslock and angry people and wank. And Martha!fen.

I feel like I need my smelling salts and a fainting couch or something. That was amazingly dramarrific.

who_anon is like the cesspool of fandom. I think a lot of people don't understand the difference between being silly and annonymous (which was I thought the original point of anon comms were) and using annonymity to be a dick.

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I feel like I need my smelling salts and a fainting couch or something. That was amazingly dramarrific.

LOL! I think that is a very sane reaction to the insanity in that comm. *shakes head*

Yeah, a Doctor Who anon comm? For the most bitter and miserable fandom ever? Who in the world thought that was a good idea? :(

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shipperx.livejournal.com

Passing observation? What small part of the CAPSLOCK*OF*RAAAAGGGEEE that I read looked like commentary from crazy people.

I'm just sayin' (And I like Spike, Rose, Martha, and Ten.

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But you're not allowed to like both Spike and Martha! Don't you know that the woman-hating-rape-apologist side of yourself cannot possibly coexist with the made-of-awesome-feminist-icon side?

*contemplates writing hot Spike/Martha pr0n just to annoy those people*

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shipperx.livejournal.com

Well I'm the CAPSLOCKOFRAGE people would say that the Martha-loving feminist side is probably offset by the Buffy-needs-her-ass-kicked side.

Then again, the CAPSLOCKOFRAGE people could just be crazy and it's the sane it's-just-tv-people! side that's winning out.

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HOW CAN YOU LIVE WITH YOURSELF?

Oh, wait, yeah, it's just TV. :)

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shipperx.livejournal.com

TV IS SERIOUS BUSINESS! (You can tell by the use of capslock.)

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rainkatt.livejournal.com

*contemplates writing hot Spike/Martha pr0n just to annoy those people*

HAHAHAA! I'd read that.

Clearly, I should HATE you. You like TEN. He does have pretty hands, though. ARGH.

I think that person must be off her meds. I've not seen that kind of crazy in a very long time.

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You don't like Ten?! *OMG HATES*

Mmmm, he does have incredibly lovely hands, doesn't he? *brain drifts off to happy place*

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rainkatt.livejournal.com

It's actually a Tennant thing, not a Ten thing. HEE.

I've stopped watching movies he was in, and I gave up on Season 2 because he was driving me batshit, and then started again because of the John Simm in Season 3 rumors. Still haven't SEEN those, but whatever. I'll do anything to see John Simm. :-)

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JOHN SIMM IS A GOD AMONG MEN.

Seriously, you haven't seen the episodes yet? Because they are amazing. So, so amazing. (I mean, kind of stupid, but absolutely wonderful in the off-the-charts ho!yay and John Simm being over-the-top brilliant way.)

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rainkatt.livejournal.com

I haven't--I'm watching on BBCA, and I started with the season 2 reruns, whenever they were, and we're only a few eps into 3. Well, more than that, but the Master has not yet appeared. Just saw "42".

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Ah, okay. He's coming up soon. >:)

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netweight

BWAHAHA!!

Oh man, I'm sorry, but it's stuff like this that's the reason *why* the rape apologist thing has become funny.

Does that posse thing come with a card? A button?

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We're obviously doing something right if we're pissing off people who are that insane.

The "rape apologist" thing is funny. Actual rape apologists are not funny, but when a bunch of feminist fangirls go around accusing other feminist fangirls of being rape apologists because they happened to like a different character in a different fandom five years ago? That is so wanky as to be hilarious.

Anyone who writes me some Doctor/Master pr0n gets a free RUSTY_HALO POSSE membership card. Or perhaps a LJ icon. :P

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netweight

We could try to explain the whole logic of the gender reversal issue on BtVS 6 but it so obviously would be wasted breath that whatever. WE R ALL TAINTED 4-EVAH!!

You know, man, my Slytherin self kinda wants to point out that you still keep an archive full of stories of people who often disagreed vehemently, even violently, with you. And it is public you parted ways with the Jossverse severely disenchanted and YET, by keeping AAS up, you're STILL helping to preserve that fandom.

From a pure fangirl perspective, I'D WANT YOU TO COME TO MY FANDOM!

I'm sorry, it's just that as a tactical move, it strikes me as a not very good one.

And I apologize, fierce posse leader, I only have Dean/Lindsey to offer. I understand if your dislike of Supernatural will force you TO BURN ME IN A PYRE!!!

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*gives you a huge hug*

Your comments always cheer me up. :)

Hee, are you sneakily trying to lure me over to Supernatural fandom? (I wish I had gotten into it because it certainly seems saner than where I am now. Even with all the incest!)

WE R ALL TAINTED 4-EVAH!!

I know! We must hang our heads in shame and never offer up an opinion in any fandom EVER AGAIN.

We could try to explain the whole logic of the gender reversal issue on BtVS 6 but it so obviously would be wasted breath that whatever

Why bother to engage in dialogue or politely agree to disagree when you can just scream RAPE APOLOGIST! with increasing hysteria while running in circles like a chicken with its head cut off? *rolls eyes*

I mean, damn. I disagreed with tons of people in BtVS and we got along fine. It's amazing what can happen when you treat people politely and with respect! (*hugs all my disagreeing friends*)

And I apologize, fierce posse leader, I only have Dean/Lindsey to offer. I understand if your dislike of Supernatural will force you TO BURN ME IN A PYRE!!!

Man, I'm the worst posse leader ever! What's the point if you can't even get porn on demand? :P

*BURNS YOU IN A PYRE FOR LIKING THE WRONG FANDOM*

(Is it Dean/Lindsey-from-Angel? Or some other Lindsey? 'Cause I like Lindsey-from-Angel....)

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netweight

*hugs you back* It's easy to make people happy when you genuinely like them. ;)

Even when OH NOES!! we disagreed on half the subjects during the first months of our acquaintance!! And I kept trying to get you to read A/S with obvious null results. Man, what was I thinking? Clearly you were never open-minded enough to give that a chance and... oh wait. :P

Okay, so I'm not very sneaky. *shifty eyes* (The Dark Lord would be so disappointed.) But! Come to our side, Laura! We just got renewed! The fic is astoundingly GOOD! The fandom is actually pretty mellow. We've got ~~hot guys~~ ~~hot girls~~ ~~complex issues about what extremes it is valid to go to to save the people you love~~ PIE!

*cough* I think it is worth giving it a chance. The show really does get better. Yes, there are issues. And it lacks subtlety in a big way. But it is putting forth a story that one can get down with without feeling like you're going to get kicked in the nuts.

And indeed it is Lindsey-from-Angel. ;) Wander over to my LJ, babe. You know you want to.

(Obviously, you don't have to. But I'd be FAILING IN MY FANNISH DUTY if I didn't try!)

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chloris67.livejournal.com

I love all the capslocks. What did you do, kick their puppies?

God forbid that you have strong opinions and write about them in your own journal. Apparently you should only discuss such things in locked posts and never ever link them where anyone else can see.

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I love how they're like "If you can't take the flames, friendslock your journal and get taken off the watchlist!" Like, yeah, I'm totally going to do exactly what they want and protect them from ever having to read a contrary opinion ever again. *rolls eyes*

There's a difference between disagreement and flames. I'm fine with polite disagreement because it often means an interesting discussion. I don't really mind flames, either, because it means there's something to laugh my ass off about. So being linked from who_daily is kind of a win-win situation. >:) (And if they are so bothered--dude, it's really easy to not read my journal if I'm so upsetting that you can't help but flame me.)

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Hmm, you appear to be getting on the nerves of the crazy people with your, you know, thoughts and opinions and stuff. You, my friend, are Made of Awesome! FTW!!1!11!

I think it's kind of a compliment really, although a little weird how they cannot let it go -- then again, that describes fandom to a tee. But really -- failing for not liking old DW? Must have missed the hidden depths of caveman politics -- I just thought it was mindnumbingly boring.

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Hee, thanks!

Yeah, I can't really figure out what I did to make them continue wanking about something I posted two months ago (and five years ago), but whatever. Obviously I made an impression, and the crazy people are just making themselves look stupider.

I have no problem with those who like old Who. People are fans of all sorts of things that I don't get. I found it boring, I posted about it in my LJ. What's the problem? I'm not ripping on the people who love it; in fact a bunch of my friends who love it were giving me suggestions about which episodes to try next.

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Urgh....That meme kind of makes me hate everyone in fandom. A lot :/

I found old Who pretty dull too. I did enjoy The Unearthly Child, but I was so bored with the first caveman episode that I stopped watching there. I like to watch things in order, but I have been thinking of just watching some of the 4th Doctor instead. Or The Mind Robber which sounds fun. I'm doing it all totally backwards, I've brought heaps of books to study what happened in the past so that I can understand the show history sufficiently, but I just can't stand actually sitting to watch someone shouting over and over, "We need fire!!!"

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I just can't stand actually sitting to watch someone shouting over and over, "We need fire!!!

Yeah, I was pretty drunk at the time so my perceptions were a bit skewed, but that did seem to go on for about four hours straight. *sigh*

I actually did enjoy "An Unearthly Child." The characters were pretty interesting, Susan was cool, the Doctor was sufficiently mysterious, the plot moved along fairly quickly. But then the cavemen showed up and it all went downhill. :(

I'm probably going to jump ahead to when the Master shows up, since he is the thing (aside from David Tennant) that has made me squee most so far.

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txvoodoo.livejournal.com

I'm BAD posse, I guess, for not agreeing w/ you 100%

You gonna do something to me now? *grin*

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*SENDS POSSE AT YOU*

...

Er, gee, nothing happened. WHERE IS MY POSSE?

Oh, right. My friends are all independent thinkers whose opinions frequently vary from mine.

*hugs ever-so-contrary friendslist*

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txvoodoo.livejournal.com

*hugs you right back*

We independent thinkers are a snuggly bunch :D

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soundingsea.livejournal.com

People are crazy, yo.

Can I still be in your posse if I don't write any Who (whilst liking all the New-Who characters)? I promise to kill trolls with my brain (as long as I can do it without moving off this couch).

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